Microsoft touts family focus with cartoon downloads
Think Nintendo has a stranglehold on the family-friendly console maker moniker? Microsoft would like you to think again. A new press release from the Xbox 360 maker touts the availability today of 100 downloadable cartoons from Warner Bros. and Nickelodeon properties on the Video Marketplace, as well as the impending launch of Shrek and Spongebob-licensed games for Xbox Live Arcade. Add in the recent branding of the new Xbox 360 Arcade as "the console for families" and a Microsoft-sponsored "family fun day" event in Times Square's Toys "R" Us today and you have a major push into the Big N's family-oriented turf.This isn't the first time Microsoft has tried to extend its reach past the hardcore Halo fans, but in the past innovative family titles like Viva Pinata have had trouble making inroads against big-name hardcore games like Gears of War. Will this latest push broaden Microsoft's image or is the 360 destined to be known primarily (and inaccurately) as a first-person shooter system. Leave your thoughts in the comments.
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mr nimblewick (SegaDF - Jogurt Ring) @ Oct 23rd 2007 1:32PM
I thought that whole "360 is not an FPS-console" argument was debunked a while ago. Or did it win and now the 360 is considered the "shooter console"?
Rubang B (NDF - Heart) @ Oct 23rd 2007 4:20PM
The argument was "debunked" with some charts showing that the percentage of 360 games that are shooters is actually less than some other genres.
But, out of the top 10 best-selling 360 games, SIX are still shooters, including 4 out of the top 5.
So even if shooters are not as ubiquitous as some may think on the console, they're still the genre of choice of the 360 fanbase. So one might say that while the 360 is not a shooterbox, 360 fans are still shooterphiles.
Konny @ Oct 23rd 2007 1:34PM
Hmmm... how many 720p episodes can they fit on that 256mg flash card they provide with the Arcade version? I guess mom will have to pony up an extra $100 for the 20gb HDD... or they can just tune into the cable/satellite they are already paying for. If they have a ota tuner, they do that for free.
Nushio (NDF - Blue) @ Oct 23rd 2007 1:46PM
Thats exactly what I was gonna post when I read the blogpost.
How many Shrek games can you fit in the tiny 256mb memory card? How many cartoons?
SoulBlade @ Oct 23rd 2007 1:41PM
ahahahahhahahaha
Skeffington @ Oct 23rd 2007 1:45PM
I don't know. I understand why Microsoft would do that, but I am sceptic as to how sucessful it is going to be. Nintendo has the 'family console' aspect well cornered, and it seems that it's mostly throwing money at a part of the population who is just going to shrug it off.
Most families who want to watch cartoons will just turn on Cartoon Network. I don't see them turning on the kids console, choose which cartoon they want to download, wait 5-10 mns for it to be downloaded and then let the kid watch it.
HineyWipe @ Oct 23rd 2007 1:48PM
"Cartoons are inherently violent"- Some film critic.
danny. (fdf.) @ Oct 23rd 2007 1:56PM
Did the press release really fail to mention the Hanna-Barbera cartoon channel as well? That is some quality stuff there. I love me some Snagglepuss...
Mr Khan @ Oct 23rd 2007 6:34PM
And SWAT Kats
gotta love SWAT Kats
Cellien @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:03PM
I think the price point alone is enough to bring in more casual audiences.. this is just another feature to appeal to people in the market.
XanthouS @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:05PM
Anything for a buck.
Dale @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:06PM
I never thought the Wii would best any of the rival systems on anything... but twice the memory of the Xbox 360 Arcade? WIN!
I fail to see the point of paying to download TV shows unless they air on some premium channel that you only want for one show (see also: Showtime and Dexter).
AoE @ Oct 23rd 2007 5:35PM
Word, what if it's the only place you can find something in HD? Like say... looney tunes episodes? I could give a crap about most of the stuff mentioned in the press release... but HD Looney Tunes surely make me happy.
Dale @ Oct 23rd 2007 6:20PM
So long as you love those HD downloads and pet those HD downloads and call them George.
gonk @ Oct 23rd 2007 7:05PM
hahaha, george :)
i downloaded like half of the loony tunes a couple years ago and burned them onto a few dvd's, i love those :)
Majortom1981 @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:07PM
The thing is all the media including this site has the nintendo system pegegd for families. IT wasnt nintendo who did this it was the media.
So microsoft will have to pay off every single media outlet to dvetise the 360 as a family console to get this to work.
Plus the controller of the wii does help a little.
You think I am wrong? all nintendo consoles have been pegged as KIDDIE . Therfore family oriented console.
borland502 (SDF - Macross Ring) @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:08PM
Looney Toons are good, but I think they may be downloaded more by gaming parents than children. And unless the Nintendo lost the Pokemon franchise, I doubt you are going to make a dent in the DS/Wii family persona.
megaStryke @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:09PM
First the PS3 target moms, now the 360 is the center of "family fun days"... what's next? Nintendo develops brain training software for the mentally failing geriatric?
borland502 (SDF - Macross Ring) @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:13PM
No, the equivalent Wii reach out game would be Manhunt Theft Murder Hitman IV: Raped Again.
megaStryke @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:15PM
Alternate titles:
The RAPEning
RAPEs of Wrath
RAPE Harder
Hello Kitty Island Adventure 2
borland502 (SDF - Macross Ring) @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:27PM
"Hello Kitty Island Adventure 2"
No kidding, Jack Thompson went insane after playing the first one. Some boundaries should never be crossed.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:21PM
Everybody knows that PS3 is the shooter console this generation.
GRANTED @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:31PM
families don't watch cartoons together. the only thing families watch together are movies, sports, and prime time tv.
Sean @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:32PM
I'd be sweet if they went in the opposite direction and started offering porn and snuff on XBL.
Sean @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:33PM
And of course by "I'd" I meant "It'd."
ssuk @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:44PM
How is this new? MS has had Disney content on the US marketplace for a while now, and according to them is 'tapping into casual gamer markets'. Not like it makes a lick-of-shit difference to the rest of the world, the UK is STILL lacking video download rentals and any decent video marketplace downloads. I feel for other EU countries and the Japanese... If the UK marketplace is so scarse of decent content, how shit must those marketplaces be?
AoE @ Oct 23rd 2007 5:39PM
Dude, really? They spell it out for you in the third sentence, here:
"A new press release from the Xbox 360 maker...."
I would bold new press release for you if I could, as that's essentially the news here. The press release is announcing a bunch of new family friendly content; clearly a good time for a press release to announce said new content, and remind people who don't already actively use the download service that it's there. After all, I would imagine that xbox live marketplace is one of MS' major xbox-related revenue-streams. I'm sure they'd love it if even more people used it, so why would the pass up an opportunity for a press release. No, really, why would they?
Odog4ever @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:47PM
If microsoft spent as many dollars creating and marketing a kid friendly game as they did on Gears and Halo 3 then it be a start. Other wise they will always be the hardcore console. (But is that necessarily a bad thing?)
Russell Carroll @ Oct 23rd 2007 2:53PM
Why do cartoons = family?
When we talk about family on the Wii it's Wii Sports and Mario Party, games that adults love as much as if not more than kids.
On the other consoles we get told that Sponge Bob is a family game.
I think the discussion is confusing.
Sponge Bob = Kids (as does Shrek and kids cartoons)
Mario, Wii Sports = Family
Pitching me stuff for kids as something that is for the family doesn't make me interested. Pitch me something I can play with my kids (like Lego Star Wars) and you have something that is family. Kids are only one part of the family, you need to include the parents in order for it to be family content.
Rob Accomando @ Oct 23rd 2007 3:18PM
I don't understand MS doesn't just sell the 20GB hd dirt cheap or just put a coupon in the arcade 360 for one ($10-$20). How much does a 20GB hd cost them? $2 ?? 256MB card will hold about 5 - 8 games, not counting saves and other content.
Rubang B (NDF - Heart) @ Oct 23rd 2007 4:25PM
Ok, I thought about it. Fat chance Microsoft. You'll have a "family console" the same day that Sony is selling PS3s to moms as a media hub. That's also the same day I'll eat my Wii and then turn into a star.
mr nimblewick (SegaDF - Jogurt Ring) @ Oct 23rd 2007 5:56PM
Is that how you turn into a star? I've been trying and trying.
Gamebreaker @ Oct 23rd 2007 5:43PM
If Microsoft wanted a piece of the casual family market they should have built a shitty, underpowered machine and released a bunch of mind-numbingly crappy flash-quality games.
Oh, and a gimmicky controller and great PR staff would help, also.
mr nimblewick (SegaDF - Jogurt Ring) @ Oct 23rd 2007 5:58PM
I love the "Report this comment" feature.
Mr Khan @ Oct 23rd 2007 6:38PM
Or, you know, they could build up years of good will in that sector then capitalize on it
You know, nimblewick, i've never used that feature, nor do i intend to
Rob Accomando @ Oct 23rd 2007 6:28PM
I think it's neat that those cartoons will be in XboxLive but can't the kids just turn the TV on to watch them???
AzaMcWazza @ Oct 23rd 2007 7:30PM
Ms are missing the boat in 2 areas.
1) The controller
2) The interface
Both of those are gamer oriented devices. They are complex, not sleek and user friendly, and not intuitive. This is where the Wii could shine if Nintendo would just move on it. They have a controller that is essentially a remote. They have Wii "Channels" that are easy to run. Just point and click.
If they moved into the media realm with cartoons and stuff (Assuming they put out an HD of course) they stand to dominate the media delivery market. Sony and MS both have behemoth machines with complex interfaces that are not Family friendly.
Come on Nintendo!